Frank [he/him, he/him]

I mean, you’re not gonna like it, but;

CW: Like over a hundred fotos that all have some kind of Nazi imagery in them, except one where I think they mistook a patch for the 14th Waffen SS Grenadiers 1st Galacian patch because it has similar elements

https://imgur.com/a/8Oo74F9

They’ve been open and pretty frank about their goals. I can explain all the symbols and their history and significance for you if you’d like.

Did they ban Yiddish, too? I hadn’t heard that, and it’s weird given that almost all Ukrainian Jews fled long ago to get away from, you know, Ukrainian Nazis.

I mean there’s a recording of Victoria Neuland talking about setting it up from months before but whatever.

Well, Ukraine. Or, rather, Right-wing nationalist Galacians who trapped dozens of Ukrainian union members who were the wrong kind of Ukrainian in a building them threw firebombs in until all the Ukrianians in the building burned to death.

Then the nationalist Galacians attacked the legitimate president, who had considerable support in eastern Ukraine.

Then the coup Rada started sending Nazi death squads in to Donbas, and shelled Donbass with artillery for like eight years.

Then the UA military staged a massive build up to invade Donbas with… uh… questionable intentions towards the Russian speaking Ukrainian population, and at that point Russia invaded.

So.

This is too simplistic. Just stop. That’s not how geopolitics works. The lines on the map aren’t real and don’t mean anything. Christ Liberals and their profound inability to understand the nature of power.

Well, the EU could have entered negotiations in good faith with Russia when all this started. The US could have not supported the Maidan coup. The coup Rada could have not declared their intent to destroy the culture and language of Russian speaking Ukrainians as their literal first act after assuming power. They could have granted the DPR and LPR the autonomy within Ukraine and protection of their language (and, frankly, ethnicity) that was initially requested. the EU could have honored Minsk and Minsk II. They could have negotiated in good faith at any point in this entire process. They could stop goading Ukrainians in to Russian defensive lines they have no chance of defeating to prolong the war. They could have allowed Ukraine to engage in attempts to negotiate a peace at any point in this process. They could have supported Zelensky’s peace platform when he was elected.

There’s no real solution now. Until Russia can no longer sustain it’s operations or NATO does, this is going to keep going until Ukraine runs out of Ukrainians to send to their deaths.

The only way the transition was “botched” was that the west wasn’t able to loot as much as they wanted.

Bro one of the Baltics is sueing holocaust survivors for trying to reclaim their property. Orban just straight is fascist. Poland has a reactionary right wing theocratic government that rather famously banned abortion. What do you want from us? If it looks like a goose and goosesteps like a goose. The reactionary right wing takeover of eastern europe is well documented. The spread of the double-holocaust narrative and it’s acceptance by the us and eu is well documented. The antisemitism, anti-lgbt violence, anti-romani violence, is all well documents. What do you want from us?

That was physically painful when I first saw some of those quotes. We’ve just lost so much potential.

Yeah. It’s still technically illegal to get an abortion in the reich afaik. It was really something finding out that the gdr had gender parity in most fields before the west crushed it, and that western germany had to give women a bunch of rights to try to manage to political turmoil.

You’re a very foolish person.

I found this funny and topical example.

Basically some dudes are tied up in a cave so they can only look forward. Behind them some other dude’s are making shadow puppets. The tied up dudes think the shadow puppets are the real world because they can’t look anywhere else and don’t think there is anything else. But then there’s something about if you’re skeptical you can escape the cave and see the real world outside.

Do you also know that Russia took Sevastopol from Ukraine back in 2014?

Yes? Because the Black Sea Fleet is station in Sevastopol and Sevastopol is a vital strategic resource? Are we speaking the same language?

Tell me, do you also support Israel’s claims on Palestinian territory?

Non-sequitor?

Do you know what the causis belli for the US’s invasion of Iraq was? Are you stupid enough to believe that one as well? Or does believing causus belli only applies to whatever country is not an ally of the US?

… Okay so you know that UA was shelling Donbass and killing people for years, and the Rada was very openly hostile to the Russian speaking Ukrainian minority, right?

I know you should get a gold medal on mental gymnastics and double standards.

Could I get a sticker instead?

Also that’s not a wall of text you dork it’s like 10 sentences.

Yeah, Putin wanted in but NATO said no… because the purpose of NATO is to subjugate and pillage Russia.

Hell, compare East Germany to the reich West Germany. West Germany’s economic conquest of East Germany was incredibly ruthless and brutal, and East Germany never recovered from having it’s entire economy pillaged and burned.

living standards in the ex-soviet countries have improved considerably since joining the EU

Yeah the living standards sure did improve after one of the worst demographic disasters in that era. Easy for things to get better when you start from the bottom I mean come on do better.

I regret to inform you that you have failed your introduction to 21st century history class

Like just little things.

Do you know that the Russian Black Sea Fleet is based in Sevastopol? Did you know that it’s an incredibly important strategic asset? What do nation states do when an incredibly important strategic asset is threatened? Do they defend it?

Did you know Crimea has a 30 year long history of seeking more autonomy, or even independence, from Ukraine?

Do you know what the very first action of the coup Rada was?

Do you know what “encirclement” means?

I know Plato’s Allegory of the Cave gets used a lot when discussion the hegemonic power of western propaganda over western people, but come on bruv.

Do the words “Minsk II” mean anything to you?

Are you aware of the tariff agreements in place between Russia and Ukraine in 2013?

Do you know who Bandera was?

Do you know what the Russian Federation’s stated causus belli for the invasion is?

What do you know?

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