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Umm… Even us on .world agree that Dems are controlled opposition and useless if we want any actual change.
Depends, is it an article about Trump? Democrats are saints who can’t fail, only be failed.
Is it an article about Democrats doing nothing that hasn’t been removed by the mods yet? You’ll probably not be downvoted for saying “Biden should have done more of his promises and getting Trump arrested should have been the priority.”
Democrats are shit. However, saying democrats are shit right before a presidential election when the only options are literally fascism, democrat, and third parties with ~zero chance of breaking even 4% of the vote, you’re an idiot and deserve to be downvoted.
“Hey these polices suck and alienate voters, maybe change them so you can win the election against a fascist?”
“Why would we wanna do that? We’re neck and neck with the fascists, if we pivot it will hurt us, we don’t need to swap.”
[Loses in a landslide because of the reasons people said they would lose]
We can’t have primaries, we’re told we’re unelectable and only weirdos like us as they refuse to cover winning states, rig them, or just have it then have the nominee back out and place a new one in charge without a vote.
We can’t criticize them on social media, we’re call Russian assets, secret Trump supporters, and other thought terming cliches. I had someone tell me that because on Mastodon I was on
todon.euI must be a Russian bot, as Americans can’t sign up for a website that ends.eu. As a leftist who voted for Biden.We can’t push them left in office, the midterms are too important, the president has different tasks than what the people who voted them into office want.
When are we allowed to critize them? It’s not pre-election, it’s not after-election, it’s not in office. It just seems like we can’t ask for anything better from them because we’re somehow wanting the people who want to kill us win, when we are asking for healthcare reform and better education.
Again, I’m not saying you can’t criticize Dems. Just don’t do it right before a presidential election when votes matter the most.
Well that covers a full quarter of the time where it is forbidden to criticize the party (including the time they were committing mass genocide).
I’m also going to guess you forbid criticism of the party prior to the midterms too.
Until we have ranked choice voting, just shut the fuck up.
Oh ok. So much for “I’m not saying you can’t criticize”.
Now it’s “shut the fuck up! You may never criticize the party ever!”
New record of one hour before they revealed their true intentions!
Again, I’m not saying you can’t criticize Dems.
Until we have ranked choice voting, just shut the fuck up.
That was about an hour. Good job.
Me telling a specific user who didn’t get my point to shut the fuck up is not the same as telling people they can’t criticize Dems. Try again.
I’ve said multiple times and I’ll say it again, PLEASE criticize Dems, I am as unhappy with them as you are, but you need to understand the implications of negative messaging when the timing is critical - three months before an election IS NOT the time to get uppity about the people you already had the opportunity to elect.
Between inauguration day and July before the presidential election, please please please feel free to criticize your representatives and vouch for change. But when we’re faced with literal fascism and you have morons shouting “b-but, genocide”, that’s exactly how you get in our current situation where fascists now control our entire government because people decided to sit the election out.
So for the final time, telling people not to criticize Dems immediately before the presidential election is not the same as telling people not to criticize Dems at all. I really don’t know how to make that more clear for the people with zero fucking reading comprehension.
I don’t know, you said “Just shut the fuck up” to reasonale criticism. Sounds like this is your walking back after being called out.
“I want them criticized and called out, I just don’t think it should be done anytime any of them are running for office when it’s most important, and if you do you should shut up.”
Amazing how quickly “you have to vote democrat” turned into “you cannot critisice democrats!”
I’m not saying you can’t criticize them. I’m saying timing matters. Are you dense?
What dates is it acceptable to you to criticize the Dems between?
Between now and about July 2028.
Well thanks for that completely arbitrary line. I will make sure to limit my criticism to the designated periods where it is permitted.
A democratic that is average at democracy is better than a conservative who is great at authoritarianism.
“average at democracy” is when you aggressively expand the world’s largest police state while persuing a policy of genocide.
Most people wanted to stop sending money for wars, and Democrats kept sending money for wars. Most people wanted to defund the police and democrats tripled the police budget. That is not a democracy. That is the total opposite of a democracy.
Tripled the police budget?
Yes, Joe “We have to back the blue” Biden tripled the police budget during and after the BLM protests
Also curious what police budget he doubled, I thought congress handled money
What police budget?
Democrats are able to hold those who commit crimes in their party accountable, thst alone is enough difference to disqualify Republicans entirely.
That’s why when Biden violated the Lahey law several times he went to jail right?
That’s why when Biden violated federal laws to keep building the wall Trump wanted, Biden was investigated right?
Trump went to jail under Biden and Garland and totally didn’t get off scott free despite commiting crimes, right?
