there is no land back. people want a state with equal rights; that’s it. i love how this is always a “concern”: hey i know we genocided you, but what if you retaliate? we can’t have that so the genocide most continue.
in reality we’ve seen what happens: what happened to the white south africans in south africa? what happened to the slave owners in the united states after emancipation? what happened to them after natives got some of their land and autonomy back?
nothing. prosperity, even. but at this point i don’t give a shit if it’s not nothing. israelis proved time and again—yes the population too, not just the government—that they’re genocidal maniacs.
this is exactly the same as being concerned with what would happen to the nazis if germany gave rights back to the jews. imagine asking “what if the jews strike back? no the camps must stay”.
just as it was right back then to emancipate the jewish people and other minorities no matter what would happen afterwards, so it is for palestinians now. luckily for the rapists and murderers of the world, the oppressed never turn out to be so genocidal once freed.
I know. I ‘support’ (for lack of a better term because I have not actually done shit for them) Palestinians. But hamas is another matter and I won’t pretend they are the good guys.
The status quo is that Palestinians have no rights (legal, human, you name it), while the Israeli state protects the Israeli citizens. They don’t get to vote, they don’t get to travel, and they don’t even get to keep their homes and lives in the face of the Gaza genocide and state-sponsored settler-colonialism.
Now, there is no reason that liberation for Palestinians must mean some sort of displacement or genocide for Israelis. The very fact that Zionists want you to believe that liberation is a zero-sum game is very telling.
One option would be a secular state that represents both Israelis and Palestinians, with appropriate measures to protect whichever ethnic group may be in the minority.
Another would be a recognized, democratic Palestinian state alongside Israel, in the borders of 1949 (or perhaps 1967), with a robust right to return. The illegal settler occupations erected since then would obviously need to be removed.
There are, of course, other avenues, some more utopic than others (as an anarchist, I favor a no state solution but I am pragmatic enough to recognize that this is wishful thinking for the near-future). But none of them, at least the serious ones, include dispelling all Israelis.
What should happen to the Israelis if palistine takes their land back?
there is no land back. people want a state with equal rights; that’s it. i love how this is always a “concern”: hey i know we genocided you, but what if you retaliate? we can’t have that so the genocide most continue.
in reality we’ve seen what happens: what happened to the white south africans in south africa? what happened to the slave owners in the united states after emancipation? what happened to them after natives got some of their land and autonomy back?
nothing. prosperity, even. but at this point i don’t give a shit if it’s not nothing. israelis proved time and again—yes the population too, not just the government—that they’re genocidal maniacs.
this is exactly the same as being concerned with what would happen to the nazis if germany gave rights back to the jews. imagine asking “what if the jews strike back? no the camps must stay”.
just as it was right back then to emancipate the jewish people and other minorities no matter what would happen afterwards, so it is for palestinians now. luckily for the rapists and murderers of the world, the oppressed never turn out to be so genocidal once freed.
I am just asking. That does not mean I am defending Isreal for fucks sake.
ok; it’s just been a common rhetoric to justify the continuation of the apartheid if not the genocide outright.
I know. I ‘support’ (for lack of a better term because I have not actually done shit for them) Palestinians. But hamas is another matter and I won’t pretend they are the good guys.
Hamas are the product of the Israeli regime. if there was no apartheid there would be no Hamas. also they’re nowhere near as bad as the IOF.
I get that. But comparing them idf depends on who you are.
What happened to white settlers in South Africa? To this day they still hold most of the good lands and are richer.
The status quo is that Palestinians have no rights (legal, human, you name it), while the Israeli state protects the Israeli citizens. They don’t get to vote, they don’t get to travel, and they don’t even get to keep their homes and lives in the face of the Gaza genocide and state-sponsored settler-colonialism.
Now, there is no reason that liberation for Palestinians must mean some sort of displacement or genocide for Israelis. The very fact that Zionists want you to believe that liberation is a zero-sum game is very telling.
One option would be a secular state that represents both Israelis and Palestinians, with appropriate measures to protect whichever ethnic group may be in the minority.
Another would be a recognized, democratic Palestinian state alongside Israel, in the borders of 1949 (or perhaps 1967), with a robust right to return. The illegal settler occupations erected since then would obviously need to be removed.
There are, of course, other avenues, some more utopic than others (as an anarchist, I favor a no state solution but I am pragmatic enough to recognize that this is wishful thinking for the near-future). But none of them, at least the serious ones, include dispelling all Israelis.
The finders keepers rule of colonizers. We stole it, but you wanting it returned is stealing it too! /s
It’s not up to you or me, or the israeli colonizers as to what happens to Palestine. That should be decided by the palestinian people themselves.